How do you use implicit differentiation here? the answer should be (5x^4+4x^3y)/(6xy^2-4y^3) but I don't know how to get there

x^4(x+y)=y^3(3x-y)

2 Answers
Oct 30, 2016

That answer is not correct for this question. Whoever provided the answer made an error in the product rule. (Or they started with a different equation.)

Explanation:

The given equation is equivalent to

x^5+x^4y = 3xy^3-y^4

Differentiating with respect to x we will get 6 terms. Three involving dy/dx and three not involving the derivative of y. Unless some of them combine, dy/dx will be the ratio of two trinomials not two binomials.

5x^4 + 4x^3y + underbrace(x^4 dy/dx)_("this term is missing") = underbrace(3y^3)_("this term is missing") +underbrace(3x*3y^2 dy/dx)_("this term is incorrect") - 4y^3 dy/dx

5x^4 + 4x^3y + x^4 dy/dx = 3y^3 +9xy^2 dy/dx - 4y^3 dy/dx

5x^4 + 4x^3y - 3y^3 = 9xy^2 dy/dx - 4y^3 dy/dx - x^4 dy/dx

Oct 30, 2016

The correct answer (verified) is as follows:

dy/dx = (5x^4 + 4x^3y - 3y^3)/(9xy^2 - 4y^3 - x^4)

Explanation:

Implicit differentiation is just an application of the chain rule. If y is a function of x ( ie y=f(x)) then your differentiate to get dy/dx directly. But if y is not an explicit function of x (eg y^2=f(x)), then you cannot find dy/dx directly and instead differemtiate y^2 with wrt y using the chain rule

So we have x^4(x+y)=y^3(3x-y)

I would tackle this by first multiplying out:
x^5+x^4y = 3xy^3-y^4

We then differentiate everything wrt x
:. d/dx(x^5)+d/dx(x^4y) = d/dx(3xy^3)-d/dx(y^4)
:. 5x^4+d/dx(x^4y) = 3d/dx(xy^3)-d/dx(y^4)

We will now also need to apply the product rule
d/dx(uv)=u(dv)/dx+v(du)/dx to get

5x^4 + { (x^4)(d/dxy) + (y)(d/dxx^4) } = 3{ (x)(d/dxy^3) + (y^3)(d/dxx) } - d/dx(y^4)

5x^4 + x^4dy/dx + 4x^3y = 3{ x(d/dxy^3) + y^3 } - d/dx(y^4)

Now we can't differentiate functions of y wrt x but we can use the chain rule (and this is the implicit differentiation)

5x^4 + x^4dy/dx + 4x^3y = 3{ xdy/dxd/dy(y^3) + y^3 } - dy/dxd/dy(y^4)

This subtle change allows s now to differentiate the non-explicit functions of y;

5x^4 + x^4dy/dx + 4x^3y = 3{ xdy/dx(3y^2) + y^3 } - dy/dx(4y^3)

:. 5x^4 + x^4dy/dx + 4x^3y = 9xy^2dy/dx + 3y^3 - 4y^3dy/dx

we can gather up the dy/dx term on the LHS to get;
5x^4 + 4x^3y - 3y^3 = 9xy^2dy/dx - 4y^3dy/dx - x^4dy/dx
:. (9xy^2 - 4y^3 - x^4)dy/dx = 5x^4 + 4x^3y - 3y^3
:. dy/dx = (5x^4 + 4x^3y - 3y^3)/(9xy^2 - 4y^3 - x^4)