Please help with this physics problem?

A small ball of mass M is connected to a block of mass 2M by a light extensible string of length R.The block and the ball are kept on the round.There is sufficient friction to prevent the block from slipping.The ball is projected vertically up with a velocity U.The velocity U for which the centre of mass of the block and the ball moves in a circle satisfies the equation:
(a)3gr<=U^2>=2gr
(b)U^2>=5gr
(c)2gr<=U^2<=5gr
(d)"None " "of" " these"
please explain the solution in detail.

2 Answers
Feb 19, 2018

None of the above.
The correct condition is
3gR <= U^2 <= sqrt{8/3}3gR

Explanation:

I am assuming that the initial configuration was one in which the string is stretched out straight so that the ball is at distance R from the block (this is the only case where the ball can move in a circle after being projected vertically.)

I am also assuming that the words "moves in a circle" actually means "moves in a complete semicircle". After all, due to the presence of the ground, it can not describe anything more than a semicircle . On the other hand "complete" is necessary - otherwise no matter what the velocity, the center of mass will, at least initially, describe a part of a circle.

The center of mass will move along a complete semicircle if two conditions are satisfied

  1. the ball moves along a complete semicircle.
  2. the block stays fixed on the ground throughout
    (under these conditions the center of mass will move all the way along a semicircle of radius R/3 )

For this, the string must be taut throughout (the tension in the string must at least be zero), and the upward component of the tension can never be more than 2mg.

If the velocity is v when the string makes an angle of theta
with the vertical, we have :

From conservation of energy :
1/2 mv^2+mgR cos theta = 1/2mU^2 implies v^2 = U^2-2gR cos theta

From Newton's second law (for the component along the string)

T+mg cos theta = {mv^2}/R = {mU^2}/R-2mg cos theta implies
T = {mU^2}/R-3mgcos theta

The minimum value that T reaches is thus {mU^2}/R-3mg, and since this can not be negative (a string can only pull - it can't push).

So U^2 \ge 3gR

On the other hand, the vertical component of the tension at theta is given by

T cos theta = ( {mU^2}/R-3mgcos theta) cos theta = 3mg({U^2}/{3gR}-cos theta) cos theta

We need to ensure that the largest value of this component is not more than 2mg.

It is easy to maximize an expression of the form (a-x)x by elementary algebra

(a-x)x = -(x^2-2 a/2 x+a^2/4)+a^2/4 = a^2/4 - (x-a/2)^2

so that the maximum value is a^2/4, attained at x = a/2

So, the largest value of T cos theta is 3mg times 1/4 ({U^2}/{3gR})^2, and since this can not exceed 2mg, we have

({U^2}/{3gR})^2 <= 8/3

and so U^2 <= sqrt{8/3}3gR

Thus the condition that one is aiming for is

3gR <= U^2 <= sqrt{8/3}3gR

Note : it may be mistakenly assumed that T cos theta is largest where cos theta is maximum, namely, at the top most point. This would have lead to the condition

{mv^2(0)}/R = T+mg <= 2mg+mg = 3mg

and this would have led to v^2(0) <= 3mg which would lead to

U^2 <= 5gr

Feb 19, 2018

None of these.

Explanation:

Assuming that the initial string elongation is r the initial velocity U in the vertical and that the angle with the horizontal axis is theta we have

1/2mU^2=1/2m v^2+rm g sin theta

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In the attached picture can be depicted the main elements involved. In red

m v^2/r centrifugal force and m r ddot theta accelerated mass along the circular path.

the tension T is given as

T = m v^2/r - m g sin theta

after substitution

T = m(U^2/r - 3g sin theta)

then T > 0 rArr U^2/r - 3g sin theta > 0 or

sin theta < U^2/(3rg)

then if we choose U such that U^2/(3rg) > 1 the tension T will be maintained all along the path.

Considering the normal reaction in the base body N

N = lambda m g - T sin theta = m(lambda g - (U^2/r - 3g sin theta)sin theta)

Here lambda = 2. Now if we want a circular path we need N > 0 or

lambda g - (U^2/r - 3g sin theta)sin theta > 0 or

sin theta = (U^2 pm sqrt[U^4-12 g^2 lambda r^2 ])/(6 g r)

and then

sin theta < (U^2 - sqrt[U^4-12 g^2 lambda r^2 ])/(6 g r) and
sin theta > (U^2 + sqrt[U^4-12 g^2 lambda r^2 ])/(6 g r)

Considering now that sin theta le 1 if we choose U such that

(U^2 - sqrt[U^4-12 g^2 lambda r^2 ])/(6 g r) > 1 then then along the path we will have N > 0 as desired, or

U^2 < (3+lambda)r g

Resuming, the condition for a neat path is

3 r g < U^2 < (3+lambda) r g